I noticed that some boxes previously listed as "abandoned" have been
removed from the lists. Why did this happen? I know many of the
boxes are still out there. Does someone HAVE to adopt it to keep it
on the list?
Jim D.
Abandoned boxes??
7 messages in this thread |
Started on 2003-11-24
Abandoned boxes??
From: James Dillon (n0kwa@bellsouth.net) |
Date: 2003-11-24 03:18:24 UTC
Re: Abandoned boxes??
From: catbead1 (libby@twcny.rr.com) |
Date: 2003-11-24 06:03:14 UTC
"Tom's Letterbox" in Green Lakes State Park, Onondaga Co., NY is also
alive and well. But for some reason the owner (I contacted her twice
about it by email plus left a note in the box) has chosen not to claim
the box. Is there some way this box can remain on the list? It's not
my place to nag the owner any more than I have, but the box is a
lovely tribute to a man who must have been well loved, and is in such
a beautiful area that I hate to see it fade away.
catbead 1
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "James Dillon" wrote:
> I noticed that some boxes previously listed as "abandoned" have been
> removed from the lists. Why did this happen? I know many of the
> boxes are still out there. Does someone HAVE to adopt it to keep it
> on the list?
>
> Jim D.
alive and well. But for some reason the owner (I contacted her twice
about it by email plus left a note in the box) has chosen not to claim
the box. Is there some way this box can remain on the list? It's not
my place to nag the owner any more than I have, but the box is a
lovely tribute to a man who must have been well loved, and is in such
a beautiful area that I hate to see it fade away.
catbead 1
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "James Dillon"
> I noticed that some boxes previously listed as "abandoned" have been
> removed from the lists. Why did this happen? I know many of the
> boxes are still out there. Does someone HAVE to adopt it to keep it
> on the list?
>
> Jim D.
Re: Abandoned boxes??
From: funhog1 (funhog@pacifier.com) |
Date: 2003-11-24 07:00:44 UTC
the box is a
> lovely tribute to a man who must have been well loved, and is in such
> a beautiful area that I hate to see it fade away.
>
...not only fade away but basically become trash in the woods. Without clues, no one
will ever be able to look for it again. Funhog
> lovely tribute to a man who must have been well loved, and is in such
> a beautiful area that I hate to see it fade away.
>
...not only fade away but basically become trash in the woods. Without clues, no one
will ever be able to look for it again. Funhog
Re: Abandoned boxes??
From: Drew Family (drewclan@aol.com) |
Date: 2003-11-24 13:10:16 UTC
> ...not only fade away but basically become trash in the woods.
Without clues, no one
> will ever be able to look for it again. Funhog
Hi, Funhog, and thanks for pointing that out. It is true that some
letterboxes, unclaimed or not, will eventually fade into the
landscape. As a matter of fact, we're doing that on purpose with a
couple of our own boxes (they're well-hidden and should never be
trashy, just sweetly composted).
It's been a real dilemma deciding what to do with unclaimed
letterboxes. On one hand, ownerless boxes create a liability
for others, and are often unmaintained, which causes endless
frustration. On the other hand, some unclaimed letterboxes are
actually still out in the wild and worth finding. Please be assured
that we have gone to extraordinary lengths,
with great expenditure of time and resources, to do the right thing
by these letterboxes. We have reassigned over a thousand of them in
the last year, and there are no unclaimed letterboxes left on the
LbNA website.
You can still find links to most of them at letterboxing.org by
clicking on "where's the old site" on the homepage. The old-site
archive, like some letterboxes, won't last forever though. So if
there are any letterboxes there that you would like to rescue,
please let us know.
Other suggestions? We welcome them! Here are some from me:
-Print out clues and share them at Gatherings as Word of Mouth Boxes.
-Box over, the way MusicWoman recently did at Gay City in CT.
-Adopt and maintain.
-Adopt and never visit. It's perfectly okay to adopt just the clues
for safekeeping without ever actually maintaining the box. Cut and
paste the clues from the old site to the new and just put a little
disclaimer along the lines of "clues adopted by Funhog, waiting for
StampinHeron to return to her nest."
-Contact the placer and encourage them to get back into the fun.
-Let them compost. The ones you're aware of can be your own personal
touchstones, kind of like a certain RI box is to WarriorWoman.
Jay in CT
Without clues, no one
> will ever be able to look for it again. Funhog
Hi, Funhog, and thanks for pointing that out. It is true that some
letterboxes, unclaimed or not, will eventually fade into the
landscape. As a matter of fact, we're doing that on purpose with a
couple of our own boxes (they're well-hidden and should never be
trashy, just sweetly composted).
It's been a real dilemma deciding what to do with unclaimed
letterboxes. On one hand, ownerless boxes create a liability
for others, and are often unmaintained, which causes endless
frustration. On the other hand, some unclaimed letterboxes are
actually still out in the wild and worth finding. Please be assured
that we have gone to extraordinary lengths,
with great expenditure of time and resources, to do the right thing
by these letterboxes. We have reassigned over a thousand of them in
the last year, and there are no unclaimed letterboxes left on the
LbNA website.
You can still find links to most of them at letterboxing.org by
clicking on "where's the old site" on the homepage. The old-site
archive, like some letterboxes, won't last forever though. So if
there are any letterboxes there that you would like to rescue,
please let us know.
Other suggestions? We welcome them! Here are some from me:
-Print out clues and share them at Gatherings as Word of Mouth Boxes.
-Box over, the way MusicWoman recently did at Gay City in CT.
-Adopt and maintain.
-Adopt and never visit. It's perfectly okay to adopt just the clues
for safekeeping without ever actually maintaining the box. Cut and
paste the clues from the old site to the new and just put a little
disclaimer along the lines of "clues adopted by Funhog, waiting for
StampinHeron to return to her nest."
-Contact the placer and encourage them to get back into the fun.
-Let them compost. The ones you're aware of can be your own personal
touchstones, kind of like a certain RI box is to WarriorWoman.
Jay in CT
Re: Abandoned boxes??
From: catbead1 (libby@twcny.rr.com) |
Date: 2003-11-25 00:32:51 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Family" wrote:
>>>snip>>>
> It's been a real dilemma deciding what to do with unclaimed
> letterboxes. On one hand, ownerless boxes create a liability
> for others, and are often unmaintained, which causes endless
> frustration. On the other hand, some unclaimed letterboxes are
> actually still out in the wild and worth finding. Please be assured
> that we have gone to extraordinary lengths,
> with great expenditure of time and resources, to do the right thing
> by these letterboxes. We have reassigned over a thousand of them in
> the last year, and there are no unclaimed letterboxes left on the
> LbNA website.
>>>>>>snip>>>>
I really do understand the reasons why the unclaimed boxes have been
removed from the new LbNA website, and I can't argue with any of them.
I also do appreciate the length of time the webmasters have given us
before the unclaimed boxes were removed. I just feel sad for the
active ones that are not being listed and yet rely on the LbNA listing
for visitors. I guess there will just be some that will waste away
for reasons unknown. If I felt it was at all ethical I would list
this particular box on my website, but I know the placer is an active
boxer in another state because we have discussed this box (and she
seemed to be a very nice person). I even offered to service it for
her since we live near by. Whatever the circumstances and reasons
are, and I have no idea what they are, the box was not claimed (and
now is no longer listed). I'm attached to this box and am reluctant
to let it go because it was the first one we found, the location is
breathtaking, and I have a personal connection with the way Tom died.
Too bad there's not a little "scratch & dent" section, like furniture
stores have, where all the little lost but active boxes can go. But
the LbNA webmasters can't be expected to be held responsible for them
and keep up with them as well.
Question: is the owner the only one who can post clues to the group?
But then again, if I wanted to let my box "X" go private, I'd be angry
if someone else kept it public.
catbead 1
>>>snip>>>
> It's been a real dilemma deciding what to do with unclaimed
> letterboxes. On one hand, ownerless boxes create a liability
> for others, and are often unmaintained, which causes endless
> frustration. On the other hand, some unclaimed letterboxes are
> actually still out in the wild and worth finding. Please be assured
> that we have gone to extraordinary lengths,
> with great expenditure of time and resources, to do the right thing
> by these letterboxes. We have reassigned over a thousand of them in
> the last year, and there are no unclaimed letterboxes left on the
> LbNA website.
>>>>>>snip>>>>
I really do understand the reasons why the unclaimed boxes have been
removed from the new LbNA website, and I can't argue with any of them.
I also do appreciate the length of time the webmasters have given us
before the unclaimed boxes were removed. I just feel sad for the
active ones that are not being listed and yet rely on the LbNA listing
for visitors. I guess there will just be some that will waste away
for reasons unknown. If I felt it was at all ethical I would list
this particular box on my website, but I know the placer is an active
boxer in another state because we have discussed this box (and she
seemed to be a very nice person). I even offered to service it for
her since we live near by. Whatever the circumstances and reasons
are, and I have no idea what they are, the box was not claimed (and
now is no longer listed). I'm attached to this box and am reluctant
to let it go because it was the first one we found, the location is
breathtaking, and I have a personal connection with the way Tom died.
Too bad there's not a little "scratch & dent" section, like furniture
stores have, where all the little lost but active boxes can go. But
the LbNA webmasters can't be expected to be held responsible for them
and keep up with them as well.
Question: is the owner the only one who can post clues to the group?
But then again, if I wanted to let my box "X" go private, I'd be angry
if someone else kept it public.
catbead 1
Re: [LbNA] Re: Poutine (was Abandoned boxes??)
From: dave & diane (vonderinsel@cox.net) |
Date: 2003-11-24 23:33:10 UTC-05:00
Diane and I found the Poutine LB in Quebec City. The stamp was sadly missing, but I had my tools on me, bought an eraser with a Canadian flag on the back, and tried to copy the old stamp (except for the giraffe - I'm not really very good - yet). the box is serviceable, and we'd be happy to adopt the box! Besides, we left the There's a Soccer Born Every Minute HH in there! What do you suggest?
Dave & Diane are...
the von der Insels
P4 F65 X9 H2
----- Original Message -----
From: catbead1
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 7:32 PM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Abandoned boxes??
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Family" wrote:
>>>snip>>>
> It's been a real dilemma deciding what to do with unclaimed
> letterboxes. On one hand, ownerless boxes create a liability
> for others, and are often unmaintained, which causes endless
> frustration. On the other hand, some unclaimed letterboxes are
> actually still out in the wild and worth finding. Please be assured
> that we have gone to extraordinary lengths,
> with great expenditure of time and resources, to do the right thing
> by these letterboxes. We have reassigned over a thousand of them in
> the last year, and there are no unclaimed letterboxes left on the
> LbNA website.
>>>>>>snip>>>>
I really do understand the reasons why the unclaimed boxes have been
removed from the new LbNA website, and I can't argue with any of them.
I also do appreciate the length of time the webmasters have given us
before the unclaimed boxes were removed. I just feel sad for the
active ones that are not being listed and yet rely on the LbNA listing
for visitors. I guess there will just be some that will waste away
for reasons unknown. If I felt it was at all ethical I would list
this particular box on my website, but I know the placer is an active
boxer in another state because we have discussed this box (and she
seemed to be a very nice person). I even offered to service it for
her since we live near by. Whatever the circumstances and reasons
are, and I have no idea what they are, the box was not claimed (and
now is no longer listed). I'm attached to this box and am reluctant
to let it go because it was the first one we found, the location is
breathtaking, and I have a personal connection with the way Tom died.
Too bad there's not a little "scratch & dent" section, like furniture
stores have, where all the little lost but active boxes can go. But
the LbNA webmasters can't be expected to be held responsible for them
and keep up with them as well.
Question: is the owner the only one who can post clues to the group?
But then again, if I wanted to let my box "X" go private, I'd be angry
if someone else kept it public.
catbead 1
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Dave & Diane are...
the von der Insels
P4 F65 X9 H2
----- Original Message -----
From: catbead1
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 7:32 PM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Abandoned boxes??
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Family"
>>>snip>>>
> It's been a real dilemma deciding what to do with unclaimed
> letterboxes. On one hand, ownerless boxes create a liability
> for others, and are often unmaintained, which causes endless
> frustration. On the other hand, some unclaimed letterboxes are
> actually still out in the wild and worth finding. Please be assured
> that we have gone to extraordinary lengths,
> with great expenditure of time and resources, to do the right thing
> by these letterboxes. We have reassigned over a thousand of them in
> the last year, and there are no unclaimed letterboxes left on the
> LbNA website.
>>>>>>snip>>>>
I really do understand the reasons why the unclaimed boxes have been
removed from the new LbNA website, and I can't argue with any of them.
I also do appreciate the length of time the webmasters have given us
before the unclaimed boxes were removed. I just feel sad for the
active ones that are not being listed and yet rely on the LbNA listing
for visitors. I guess there will just be some that will waste away
for reasons unknown. If I felt it was at all ethical I would list
this particular box on my website, but I know the placer is an active
boxer in another state because we have discussed this box (and she
seemed to be a very nice person). I even offered to service it for
her since we live near by. Whatever the circumstances and reasons
are, and I have no idea what they are, the box was not claimed (and
now is no longer listed). I'm attached to this box and am reluctant
to let it go because it was the first one we found, the location is
breathtaking, and I have a personal connection with the way Tom died.
Too bad there's not a little "scratch & dent" section, like furniture
stores have, where all the little lost but active boxes can go. But
the LbNA webmasters can't be expected to be held responsible for them
and keep up with them as well.
Question: is the owner the only one who can post clues to the group?
But then again, if I wanted to let my box "X" go private, I'd be angry
if someone else kept it public.
catbead 1
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Re: Abandoned boxes??
From: Warrior Woman (warrioringilead@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-11-25 13:15:24 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "catbead1" wrote:
> Question: is the owner the only one who can post clues to the
group?
> But then again, if I wanted to let my box "X" go private, I'd be
angry
> if someone else kept it public.
>
> catbead 1
Read the clues for Piece of Cake in Hopkinton, MA.
Warrior Woman, recklessly kind, but has learned her lesson to do so
judiciously (waves to the one out there who knows what I am talking
about)
> Question: is the owner the only one who can post clues to the
group?
> But then again, if I wanted to let my box "X" go private, I'd be
angry
> if someone else kept it public.
>
> catbead 1
Read the clues for Piece of Cake in Hopkinton, MA.
Warrior Woman, recklessly kind, but has learned her lesson to do so
judiciously (waves to the one out there who knows what I am talking
about)